Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/21/2001 01:38 PM Senate JUD

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             SB 81-NONADEMPTION OF TRANSFERS IN TRUSTS                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT,  sponsor of SB  81, said the bill is  a clean up                                                            
for a piece of legislation  that was passed last year - HB 275.  One                                                            
section of HB 275 had incorrect  language that rendered a portion of                                                            
the new law ineffective.  SB 81 proposes a fix for this problem.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS  asked if SB 81 is the "clean-up of  the clean-up last                                                            
year that was the clean-up of the Joe Ryan trust bill."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIRMAN TAYLOR said seven  or eight bills have been passed over the                                                            
years tying  to keep up with supreme  court and tax court  changes -                                                            
trying to make Alaska an  attractive state for people to place their                                                            
money in trust.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS  said a more comprehensive  look at SB 81 might  be in                                                            
order.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  said he has received a report on  this question and                                                            
would be scheduling a meeting at a later time.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT said  Section 1. AS 13.12.712(b), of HB 275, used                                                            
language such  as "authority of a  durable power of attorney  for an                                                            
incapacitated  principal."  This was incorrect language  with regard                                                            
to trusts -  when there is a trust  there are trustees.   This error                                                            
has been corrected.   The AG's office  has sent a memo saying  SB 81                                                            
appears to amend  AS 13.12.712 "to properly reflect  the purpose for                                                            
the entire  statute, namely the nonademption  of specific  transfers                                                            
in trusts."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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SENATOR ELLIS  thanked Senator Therriault  for going to the  revisor                                                            
first.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR said  Senator  Ellis' point  was a  very good  one.                                                            
Often  times  the  revisor  is not  consulted  and  bills  are  just                                                            
created.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  said  the  State  Affairs   Committee  saw  the                                                            
revisor's bill on 2/20/01.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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MR. STEPHEN  GREER,  Attorney,  testifying via  teleconference  from                                                            
Anchorage, said HB 275  was a complicated bill trying to give Alaska                                                            
citizens the  benefit of certain tax  selections.  Section  2, which                                                            
was a non-tax  provision,  attempted to make  the law applicable  to                                                            
wills equally applicable  to revocable trusts.  People use revocable                                                            
trusts to avoid  the expense of a probate proceeding.   SB 81 cleans                                                            
up HB 275 with respect to one particular section.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked for the definition of nonademption.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREER  said the  definition  means  not  extinguished.   As  an                                                            
example:  In  a will or trust if you  give a piece of property  to a                                                            
relative, and  that piece of property has been sold  by you prior to                                                            
your death - under the  general rule - this request would be adeemed                                                            
or extinguished  because the property does not exist  at the time of                                                            
death and the relative would not receive the property.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREER said there are  a few instances when a specific bequest is                                                            
not  adeemed  or extinguished  and  SB 81  is  meant to  cover  this                                                            
situation with  respect to revocable trusts.  He gave  the following                                                            
examples for bequeaths not adeemed:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The first  instance is when a property is being  condemned                                                                 
     and there  is an unpaid condemnation award for  the taking                                                                 
     of the property  - the person who would have received  the                                                                 
     property is  instead entitled to receive the condemnation                                                                  
     award.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The second  instance is when a piece of property  has been                                                                 
     directed  to a  relative  and that  piece of  property  is                                                                 
     destroyed  and insurance proceeds remain unpaid  at death,                                                                 
     the  relative would  be entitled to  the unpaid insurance                                                                  
     proceeds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Another  instance is  when a  person is the  obligee of  a                                                                 
     promissory note and that  person wants the note to go to a                                                                 
     relative   but  before  the   person's  death,  there   is                                                                 
     foreclosure on the note  and the property that was used to                                                                 
     secure  the  note  is  taken  back.   In  this  case,  the                                                                 
     relative would be entitled to that piece of property.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  (b) is  meant  to address  the situation  when  a                                                                 
     settlor makes  a specific bequest but becomes  incompetent                                                                 
     and  the trustee sells  the property.   In this case,  the                                                                 
     intended   recipient   of  the  specifically   bequeathed                                                                  
     property is  entitled to other properties of equal  value.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREER  said all  of these examples  are in  conformity with  the                                                            
Uniform Probate Code.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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SENATOR  COWDERY asked  - for  a deed  of trust  - if  the value  is                                                            
larger after a  foreclosure than the balance of the  money owed - is                                                            
this an issue for SB 81?                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREER said the Uniform  Probate Code has contemplated this - the                                                            
excess value would go to the residuary estate.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY  moved to pass SB 81 from committee  with individual                                                            
recommendations.  There being no objection, the motion passed.                                                                  

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